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Post by MoG on Jun 11, 2010 7:29:30 GMT
oh ok, and is the picture posted above of the tape on the cd correct? doesn't have to be all round the outer edge? just one part like that?
have to try again when i get home from work
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Post by Leknih on Jun 11, 2010 7:47:43 GMT
Yep, in principle a 1mm thin covering tape will work, but this broader tape is the fast and easy way. The position of the tape of course depends on where the crossover from audio (inner) to data (outer) is.
Good luck, partners in crime!
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Post by MoG on Jun 11, 2010 8:14:46 GMT
by 'the position of the tape' do you mean position 'around' the cd' or position towards the center?
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Post by Leknih on Jun 11, 2010 8:44:19 GMT
This is to XCP discs only: The inner part of the CD is the audio part (red), then comes a small "gap" or "border" (black), then comes the data part (grey). Basically it's not important how big or what shape the tape is or where and in what degree you position the tape (yellow), it's only important that it is nonclear and looking from the center, that you cover completely the data part from start (after the "gap") to the end of the CD. If it doesn't work in the first, cover more and more of the "gap", but do avoid the audio part. That's all.
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Post by MoG on Jun 11, 2010 8:58:34 GMT
ahh, that makes a lot more sense. i was probably pretty close yesterday, i was surprised that it was still showing all tracks, even though i'd covered up 80% of the cd - sounded like a jet engine in the cd tray lol.
did you pull that image off the internet? if so, which site? and how many times have you done this?
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Post by docsavage1975 on Jun 11, 2010 9:14:41 GMT
Its threads like this that really represent the true inner geek in all of us on here!!!! ;D
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Post by Leknih on Jun 11, 2010 9:32:46 GMT
Made up the image myself, took me 30 seconds. How many times? I've never done this, it's illegal. ;D
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Post by MoG on Jun 11, 2010 10:05:33 GMT
ironically, it wouldn't be illegal to copy a cd that didn't have XCP on it, for personal use that is.
load of bollocks if you ask me.
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Post by MoG on Jun 11, 2010 15:12:14 GMT
ok, been trying for a while now - i can see the break between data and audio, it seems to be about 8mm from the edge. when i tape up to it, eac sees all the tracks on the cd, but as data, and windows explorer thinks the disc is empty.
not sure what to do next... more tape/less tape?
*shrug*
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Post by Leknih on Jun 11, 2010 15:17:20 GMT
Nope, explorer must say it's an audio CD, then you reach gold.
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Post by lament on Jun 11, 2010 16:09:51 GMT
Mog,
Download the trial of CloneCD and copy the CD (ironically, it can be copied - but it also includes the protection). Then burn the .img that CloneCD creates (with CloneCD) to a CD-R and work with that.
from another forum.. this guy used SONIC to copy it, but I used CloneCD on this and it copied it (dunno where I put the CD-R tho and my trial ran out of CloneCD and the keyreg doesn't work..argh!)
I was the able to use SONIC to easily make an "exact copy" of the disc. I did not try, but I assume this copy and any additional copies will work on all regular CD players.
The computer will not read the audio tracks on this disc either even when the SHIFT key is held when inserting. The copied disc does however have a gap on the outer part of the disc whereas the original does not.
I then took a Sharpie Pen and filled in the gap as well as a slight amount of the outer edge of the burned region. When I inserted the disc again (I did hold down the SHIFT key but I'm not sure it is needed at this point) the drive went spastic trying to read the data in the shaded in area but when the noise stopped, the data files were gone and I could read the Audio tracks. I ripped a copy to Windows Media player without difficulty. It sounds great and the player was even able to access the album info from the online source.
The great thing is I did not destroy my original. I may have been lucky to shade in just the right amount of area but it worked pretty well. My thought would be to shade a hair more of the outer edge of the burned area if the data files continued to appear. I definitely shaded the entire gap.
I know this is not very technical but it works. Look forward to seeing if this works for others.
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Post by lament on Jun 11, 2010 16:46:55 GMT
ok, been trying for a while now - i can see the break between data and audio, it seems to be about 8mm from the edge. when i tape up to it, eac sees all the tracks on the cd, but as data, and windows explorer thinks the disc is empty. not sure what to do next... more tape/less tape? *shrug* I covered enough to just show desktop.ini file one time.. so damn close.
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Post by MoG on Jun 11, 2010 17:47:34 GMT
thi sis really starting to annoy me now
there are errors in the first track so i cant copy the disc (to an image file) and no matter where i put the tape iget the same result, eac sees data
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Post by lament on Jun 11, 2010 17:54:04 GMT
I seriously think we need to cover a little bit near the center because IsoBuster is showing a session there, too.
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Post by MoG on Jun 11, 2010 18:01:57 GMT
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